On 9 May 2011, the Bureau of National Affairs (BNA) reported on Germany's plans to further invest and expand upon smart grid technology and infrastructure. This requires smart demand management, or the roll-out of smart meters. Economist and Fellow at Ecologic Institute Berlin, Max Grünig was interviewed on the issue of smart grids and smart meters in Germany and comments on the problems of privacy smart metering brings about and the related social resistance to the rollout of smart meters.